In the "Heroes" Chapter, how does Satrapi use the visual to show the relationship between Marjane and Laly? Focus on 1-2 images. Describe, analyze and interpret the images separate from the text.
The images that I am focusing on are the image where Marjane says that Laly's father is dead and then the image where Marjane ask Laly if she would like to play and she says no.
In this first image, this is actually prior to when Marjane tell Laly that when they say her father was "taking a trip" it truely means that he is no longer living. Laly runs away crying. Now, consdering that this is a graphic novel, you can tell that when Laly was crying that she was sad about something and the Marjane had actually hurt her feelings a little bit.
The second image has something to do with the first because the way that Laly folds her arm when Marjane ask her if she wants to play. This shows that Laly still had sort of a more hostile feeling toward Marjane after what she has said to her.
In the second to last panel on page 48 the author is showing that Marjane is taking an almost evil pleasure in telling Laly that her father might be dead. In the image, Marjane's face has a huge smile acros her face with wide eyes. But Laly's face is showing hatred and resentment. Laly's face has sturn look with a huge frown. In a way their facial experessions are exact opposites. The last detal is there are slashing lines that connect their eyes and show the intensity of the moment.
In the part where Marjane asks Laly where her father is, Laly replies, "on a trip" it shows that Laly doesn't know as much about the revolution as Marjane. It also gives me the impression that Laly's mother seems to have "babied" Laly. What I mean by this is that her mom doesn't want Laly to have suspicions about her father's whereabouts, so Laly's mother lies to her. BRANDON JOHNSON>>>
Marjane has a bluntness that she cannot always control, especially as a young child. As children do, she speaks her mind. She often does not see any wrong in what she is stating and the harsh reactions she causes confuse her. Laly was informed that her father was on a trip. Marjane remembers how when her grandfather was "on a trip" he was really dead. Marjane tells Laly that her father is dead if they say he is on a vacation. Naturally, Laly is upset greatly when she hears this, Marjane ends up being incorrect, but Laly never forgives her. You can see the tension between Laly and Marjane by Laly's stance in many of the illustrations. Marjane is obviously trying to talk and play with Laly, but Laly stands stubbornly with her arms crossed. In another picture Laly is much bigger than Marjane. This shows that Marjane feels much less then Laly because her own father was not in jail, she felt that because her father was not in jail he was not a hero and therefore she was smaller and weaker then Laly in the picture.
on page 48 Marjane tells Laly that her father is dead. Marjane seems kind of embarrased about what she told Laly because in the second to last panel, Laly is crying meanwhile Marjane is making a sort of nervous smile while her mother is looking angry at Marjane. you can easily tell that by the electricity between their heads. I also think that in the last panel of page 49, Marjane asks Laly if she wants to play and Laly says no. This shows that they arent the best of friends nd that Marjane is trying to make up for what she told Laly.
There's a panel on page 49 where Laly is crossing her arms with an attitude and Marji is just staring at her innocently, but guiltily asking "You want to play?" like nothing ever happened. Laly simply replies “No.”Without reading the text you can see in this panel that Laly has direct feelings towards Marji at this moment in time. It isn’t hard to see that Marji is requesting something from Laly, but Laly declines simply with a snobby attitude. Previously Marji explains in her experience and perspective to Laly what being “on a trip” really means; being deceased. Laly responds in weeping and running off as if Marji had just offended her. When Laly’s father comes home and is not dead Laly get an I told you so attitude and crosses her arms.
In the part when Marjane talks to Laly the topic of Laly's father being on a "trip" comes up. the text and pictures really align. They support each other. the text gives the background while the picture gives the details. in this selection specifically you can tell that the two characters aren't great friends, but they are close enough for Marjane to feel the need to keep it real with her. Marjane seems to do in an insensitive way. When the two charters reunite it seems as if Laly has grown up from the metaphorical slap that Marjane has placed on her cheek. there is more to this revolution than what the adults tell you.
Im focusing on the image where you first see Marjane and Laly together. They seem to not like each other. Marjane seems to be shying away from Laly and all together it looks like an awkward experience. It almost looks like when two little kids are meeting for the first time and they don't want to be with each other. The feeling seems to be unhappiness for both of the girls. Marjane and Laly both are frowning. It reminds me of kids waiting outside the doctors office have in a feeling of dread and fear that you might get a shot.
The sixth image on page 48 is Laly running away from Marjane in tears. This image shows Laly's hair very long, and blowing in the breeze, which almost gives her speed and an anxiety to leave Marjane. Marjane is dressed in dark colors, and Laly is dressed in lighter colors almost showing that Marjane is kind of some "dark news" and since Laly's dress has bits of black in it, it shows that the bad news is seeping into her with the help of Marjane. The fact that Laly is running away from Marjane shows a harshness or tension between these girls. Theres almost this idea that Marjane is kind of taking advantage of Laly, just because in this picture, she is somewhat taller. The way Satrapi shows speed with wind-lines shows a tension between the girls. It shows how speedy Laly needs to be to get away from the Marjane, which deffinatley shows a bit of harshness in the relationship of Marjane and Laly
I think a good example of Marjane and Laly's relashionship is on page 49 when Marjane asks Laly to play and Laly says no. Marjane feels bad about what she said about Laly's father. Marjane was just talking from experience. Laly does not seem to realize this because she still does not forgive Marjane.
Another image is on page 48 is when Marjane is smiling at Laly as if asking for forgiveness in a way. In reponse Laly looks at Marjane with a blatant sense of anger in her eyes. There is even a bolt between them which shows the intensity they face. Pablo
I am analyzing three panels. The first one is where Marj tells Laly that her father has died. It shows what children think when there are no adults around. In the second picture Laly is horrified at the fact and runs to her mother in terror. The mother of Marj looks at Marj in angst. This shows the result of it. The third panel is not ajacadent to the first two. Later on in the chapter, the father of Laly and a friend comes from prison. Due to this Laly calls her father a "hero" or "martyr" because of him going to prison and also celebrating his return as a citizen to society. Everyone thought well that people went to prison. The first two panels showed that death was worse than prison. The third showed that going to prison was the best apparently.
The three panels all show how life and childhood friendships go. At first when Marj is telling Laly her presumed "truth" she and her are close together. This shows the basis of childhood friendship. When she gets into a fight they are split up with Marj going into her room. That is when they split paths (like how friends go to different colleges) and they only see each other at celebrations (such as high school reunions or funerals or weddings). The third panel shows the celebration of the return of Laly's dad. That shows a brief time of meet but no longer holds the childhood friendship. By the time after the return they no longer are major friends that is the result of a process that usually takes about a lifetime.
I picked the image where Marji points at Laly and looks at her with authority. This image seems like Marji is pretending to be older and more mature than she is. Marji is insisting that Laly’s father is dead because, in her experience, that’s what happens when they say someone's on a trip. Laly feels sad because there is nothing she can do to counteract what Marji said. Laly's mouth is wrinkled and closed, reflecting the fact that she has no ability to respond because she is so powerless.(p 48)
In my other image Laly is huge while Marji is small. Laly's father has come back and she feels authority because she was right. Laly implies that, while her dad was a hero and had to endure many forms of torture, Marji’s dad was not. Marji feels like no one in her family is the same kind of hero that Laly’s dad is, so she is humiliated and sad. Even though it’s not fair to compare different forms of being a hero, Marji feels that Laly is right and that her father truly isn’t heroic. This also shows that Marji was wrong-- even if Laly's father was taken away, he was not murdered. Now Marji probably feels somewhat powerless, because the tables are turned.(p.52) Not only is Laly's father not dead--he is a hero.
Marji made an assumption without having any proof. Even if a lot of people were murdered, you should never assume that someone is dead. Marji is such a literalist that she can’t even hope or want things to be different. Now, while Marji has realized that everything isn’t always as it appears to be and while she has adopted a different point of view, it is to late because she has already hurt Laly. And, this kind of pain probably won’t be forgotten or forgiven.
There was an image on page 52 that stood out to me. In the picture Laly is telling Marjane that her dad is a hero and that Marjane's dad isn't. Laly is drawn much bigger then Marjane. This is like this to show the power and anger that Laly has. She is fed up with her father being seen as a man that was not very important so she as she yells or says "Maybe, but my father is a hero!" She feels very powerful. Marjane's face shows fear and shock. The lines around her head show that she is now paying much attention and is very surprised that Laly would scream and get so angry with her. I think this image shows how people in Iran and other people in the world are proud to represent there history and struggle that is in their family.
Another image I'm focusing is on page 49. Marjane is asking Laly if she wants to play. Laly obviously says no because she is mad that Marjane told her that her father was dead. She figured out that her father was really alive. You get the sense that Laly is really upset. She has her arms crossed, her eyes closed, and her back turned. When you are mad at someone you may cross your arms. You also turn your back to them to show that you do not want to interact or talk to them. In this one as apposed to the other, they are equal size. This is because nobody is showing great power to the other. This image can also symbolize how sensitive people are towards people they love and people that have fought for what they believed in.
On page 52 Maji has “shrunk” to a rather diminutive stature, while Laly is towering above her. Maji seems rather surprised at fact that she is no longer in control of the conversation. Throughout the entire book Maji seems to take control of others no matter the time or place. For instance, she forced her maid [Mehri] to protest with her. Mehri did not have to protest, she was suppose to guard Maji.. Instead, she gave in, this indicates a social hierarchy which has been established by Maji. When Laly blows Maji’s train of thought when exclaiming “maybe but my father is a hero”! Maji is shocked by the fact that Laly refused to agree with her. Later On she joins her friends, telling them they will play a torture game. Maji later feels like she has “diabolical power”. This again shows her dependance on power.
The first image i chose was the third panel on page 48. I think this image shows that Marji knows what it means when someone goes on a "trip". You can see in Marji's face that she feels bad for Laly. You can tell that Marji almost feels like an adult, like she has to break the bad news to Laly. When you look at Laly's face you can tell that she knows that her father is not just on a "trip". I think one of the most important reasons to have images in a book is that you can see the characters facial expressions. If the reader could not see Marji and Laly's faces they would not be able to tell that even though Laly says her father is on a trip you can tell from their expressions that neither of them really believe that.
My second image is the fifth panel on page 48. I think this picture is important because it shows that Marji is starting to doubt that every time someone says "on a trip" it means that the person they are talking about is dead. Like i said before one of the most important thing about images is that they show facial expression. You can tell that Marji feels bad right after telling Laly that her father is dead. She says to herself and to Laly that that was the case with her grandfather. I think another important thing about images is that they show feelings. Just reading the text you could never tell that Marji felt bad, you would just think that she was clarifying what she said to Laly.
The image on page 48 when Marjane is telling Laly that going on a trip means he is really dead. And the image on pg. 52 when Marjane is explaining to Laly that she wasn't completely wrong about the "going on a trip part."
In the 1st image on pg. 48. I think that describes Marjane and how she just jumps to conclusions. Basically Marjane repeats what other people have said. Marjane sort of acts like "the big sister" towards Laly. Marjane acts like she knows-it-all. And Lalys response is like "the little siste." But in the second image even though Marjane made a mistake she "clears it up" but the mistake is still there because again she's acting like the big sister. Except, Laly is responding differently towards Marjane, Laly's facial expression in the second one seems like she listened to Marjane once and she's not going to listen to her again.
On page 48, the relationship between Marjane and Laly wasn’t off to a good start because Marijane made her burst out crying when she said that Laly’s father is dead, which he really wasn’t but Marijane assumed he was. When Laly told her mother, she said that he wasn’t dead and overhearing about the, Marijane’s mother sent her to her room very angrily. Marijane said that sometimes the truth hurts but nobody will accept the truth, which in my opinion is true if the other person is disagreeing with you (that may have been off topic a little). Also on page 52, it was the opposite for Marijane because while Laly was speaking to Marijane about Laly’s father, she proclaimed that “Maybe, but my father is a hero,” even though Marijane was right about him not being on a trip and wrong about her father being dead, which made Marijane feel bad about not having her father as a hero. She seemed a little jealous of Laly’s father, being a “hero” and all because she really wanted a hero in her family and knowing her father wasn’t a hero made her a little sad or depressed, thinking that Laly’s father might be a little bit more exciting and interesting and brilliant than her father. -Brianna<3
If you look at the pictures with Laly on the first two pages that she is introduced you can see that Marjane and Laly almost never share the same expression on their faces. It seems like what Marjane said about her father being “on a trip” might have meant that he was dead seemed to hurt Laly. They seemed to be friends in the beginning but as the pictures in the book advance, their relationship gets more and more adversary until close to the end of the chapter when it starts to become a competition of who’s family is more heroic and which members suffered more as demonstrated by the third to last image on page 52 when Laly claims that her father was a hero for going through the suffering he went through. She is bigger in that image also.
I focused on the images from pages 48 and 50. on page fourty eight, I chose the picture where Marjane breaks the news about "traveling" to laly. on page 50 i wrote about the picture with the families together.
to Marjane, "taking a trip" refers to dying. as a child, she doesn't know how badly this could hurt other people. she is symply relaying life experiance. I think the picture showes what Marjane would have looked like eventualy if the revolution had continued and the Shah was still in power. Marjane looks depressed and Laly looks devastated. i think this picture showes the pasage of time and the continuation of depression/oppression.
in the picture on page 50. it seems as though the girls have switched families. marjane seams to bear more of a resemblince to Lalys mom and vice versa. I think this picture showes the two families conections and the way the girls would feel more at home with their opposites family. Marjanes family is more outspoken and more beliving. this would be a good environment for Laly becasue she needs reasurance that her father is alive. Lalys family is more activist and more for protests. Marjane is more of an activist than her parents and it would be helpful to have parents that supported her in her belifes.
in the chapter just by looking at the images you can tell that there is something about laly that marjane does not like. there is nothing wrong with expressing your opinion and speaking your mind but marjane crosses the line in this scene. i don't believe that marjane wanted to make laly cry but she definitely did not feel bad and she clearly thought of it as something you would say frequently. her expression as laly was running away showed that she was confused that she would cry about something like that. i think that marjane has a lot to learn about how the world works because clearly she doesn't know about people as much as she knows about politics. in order for her to become a profit she needs to discover everything about life not just the way countries work.
In the chapter "Heroes" Marjane shows the relationship between herself and Laly so well that if you were illiterate you would be able to understand what was going on in the book. At first they were not best friends but they were friendly towards each other. Then after marjane said to Laly that her father was dead you could see she was very upset, especially after her father came home from jail. Laly showed her back to Marjane and also showed hatred towards her. You could see this very clearly. After Laly forgave Marjane a tiny bit, she showed that she was proud of her father. Satrapi shows so much detail and emotion in her drawing sof Persepolis. this is katherina! :P
I'm focusing on the image on page 49 in the bottom right corner and the one in the bottom left corner on page 52.
The first image where Marjane asks if Laly wants to play, and Laly doesn't even look at her when she says "No.". Laly is certainly hurt over what Marjane said when she said that Laly's dad was dead. This is really a time she should be happy and forgive Marjane, since her dad come back alive.
Looking at the second image, Laly is still mad at Marjane, because Laly is drawn double as big as Marjane, which makes her arrogant, and very proud over that her father was in jail.
The images of Marjane and Laly show that they do not have a good relationship. In the pictures when Marjane is getting put down by Laly father, when she ask Lalya to play and she says no, when Marjane is telling Laly that she was right her father did not go on a trip, and when Laly says that her father is a hero.
In the images when Marjane is getting put down by laly father and when she ask her to play and Laly says no, i think it shows that they don't have a good relationship. Laly seems kind of annoyed about her dad in away giving a lot of attention to marjane. Also Marjane said that her father was dead and disagree with what Laly thought her father was doing during that period of time. Marjane lookes like she doesn't know what she has done to offend Laly.
In the picture when Marjane is telling Laly that she was right about her father not being on a trip. Laly seems annoyed that she is right and doesn't really care what Marjane has to say. The next picture when Laly is drwn really big and says that her dad is a hero it shows that she is yelling. And once again Marjane looks like she doesn't what she has done wrong. Laly feels like a bigger person because her father is a hero.
I chose 2 images from the chapter "Heroes" and I chose the the visuals where Marjane insists that Laly's father is dead, and the second one is where Siamak and his daughter Laly are at Marjane's house where they reunite we Marjane's family, and Marjane asks Laly if she would like to play with her and Laly states that she does not want to play.
In the first image I picked, the relationship is pretty neutral, and they aren't friends or enemies. Marjane feels a sense of jealousy because her grandfather had died when he had gone out for a trip, but there is hope for Laly's dad, because there was no evidence that he was dead.
The second image connects with my first image, and that is after Laly's father, Siamak, is found. Marjane thinks up a way to sort of not have the conversation they had earlier about Laly's dad and that he would not survive, and Marjane wants Laly to forget it because Marjane was wrong, and Marjane was jealous. But Laly states that she does not want to play. This relationship is like a "I told you so" relationship and these "friends" go back and forth and one friend thinks one thing because of one of her past experiences, but when she finds out that it isn't true, the person likes to not speciffically tell the person I told you so, but instead she says it in other words.
The image that I am focusing on is on page 52 the third to last box.The image shows Laly towering over Marjane. It shows that their relationship is like a competition. Marjane told Laly that her father was dead, then Laly's father came back from prison and Laly says he is hero. That is the way it goes in their relationship, whoever is able to have a hero as a father or whoever seems to prove that the other girl's parent is dead, will be superior. Marjane and Laly are not really friends, their mothers are friends but they are not. Marjane and Laly are just competitors that take advantage of the times when they can feel superior.
i think that two signifigant images are when marjane says that her father is really dead and laly is about to cry; the other image is when marjane is being picked up and hugged by laly's father and laly is staring at them angrily.
this first image is important because it shows how marjane's mind is working because she feels like that was always true because that was what happened to her with her grandpa also i feel like she wasn't totally wrong because it seemed like laly's mother thought her husband was dead.
in the other image right after laly's father came home and he is picking up marjane and hugging her and you can see that laly is upset because she is glaring at then with arched eyebrows it seems like she is jealous because marjane said he was dead and now he was hugging her and he just came home from being in jail for seven years and she feels like he should only be paying attention to her.
I chose the image on page 52, panel number 4. In this image, Laly is very upset and defensive. Her eyebrows are crossed her hands are on her hips and there is a frown across her face. Marjane is very shocked and frightened at Laly's sudden bust of anger. The tone of this scene is primarily shown by the size of the people. Laky is much larger that Marjane. This symbolizes the feeling of both Marjane and Laly at the moment. Marjane is feeling small and frightened as opposed to Laly who has been overcome by anger towards Marjane.
I am going to focus on page 48 on the three middle panel. You can see how Marjane does not really think before she says things in this part of the book.
She tells Laly that when people say that someone is on a trip they usually mean that the person is dead. It shows in Laly's facial expression that she really got scared and she runs away crying.
Marjane only said that because she is basing it of of her own experience with her Grandfather and how people keep on telling her that he is on a trip when she actually thinks that he is dead.
I am focusing on the third image on page 49. It shows Marjane and Laly standing next to each other underneath their parents. Marjane is staring at Laly as Laly is turned and looking away from her. The parents seem to be ignoring the kids. There is a clear line in the background that splits the background color from black to white. You can see a tension between both girls as Marjane stares at Laly who seems to be ignoring her. It looks like there's been a fight. I think the background colors show the separation between the adults and children in their different worlds because they seem like two different scenes on one page. There's a dislike of the other between both girls. Marjane looks surprised in why Laly is mad at her and seems to be questioning why but at the same time staring at Laly as if it's silly of her to be mad. Laly seems like she is looking away because she doesn't want to look at or hear Marjane speak but there's a sense of Laly feeling like she should have a power over Marjane as well since Marjane hadn't been nice to her and an expectance of an apology.
on page 48, panel six, it shows Laly running away from Marjane when she suggests that her father is dead. this image shows not only the struggle that young children had to go through, but also the honesty that Marjane has about heroes, prisoners, and other victims. Laly finds it extremely saddening to picture her father dying in jail and runs away because she does not want to face the possibilities of that assumption to be true. Marjane's mother sends her to her room later on in the page because she finds it cruel for her daughter to torture and manipulate this young girl’s mind upon thinking that her father could have died. The tension between Laly and Marjane's friendship was evident after this incident because it was a very powerful and blunt statement to make in front of Laly who has been separated from her father for a while.
The image i am choosing to focus on is the last one on pg 49. this scene depicts both families, mirroring each-other. Marjane has previously told Laly that her father was dead and she proceeded to run away. This scene is when Lalys father is finally reunited with his family. Marjane is facing Laly, eagerly asking her to come play with her. Laly is standing erect facing forward with her eyes closed. Their posture shows contrast between both girls and Marjane's out outfit consists of mostly black while Lay's garments are a white sheen. After analyzing both little girls,one takes a look at both families. Majrjane's dad is looking down as if ashamed, and her mother is looking away distractedly. Laly's mother is holding on ho her husband and seemingly not paying attention to the scene. Laly's father is just standing upright which his eyes tilted downwards. You can see the awkward relationship between families that Marjane and Laly's fight has slightly affected.
She used one image where Marjane and Laly are discussing where her father is. Laly saids he's on a trip, and to marjane this meant he was dead. Because for past experiences and due to all her research about the revolution, when someone said their friend or relative was on a trip it meant they were dead. So Marjane told Laly that her father was dead because that was the understanding she had from that term "on a trip." Laly broke into tears in the image and ran to her mother asking if her father was dead and begging for her to say she wasn't. This showed that the revolution had a major impact not only for adults but it affected the lives of children as well. It also shows that the children were very aware of what was going on during Irans revolution, that they weren't blind about as some people thought they were. There is another image where Marjane ask Laly to play and Laly saids no in a rebuffed manner. Marjane felt extremely reject, and didn't understand at the moment why Laly didn't want to play, but she remember after that what she said about her father affected her and changed her relationship with Marjane. These images show that was extremely hard for everyone in iran, and they had to take life as it came, they couldn't rush it. They had to learn how to cope with their problems, and figure out ways to lead their family in the right direction without them falling apart. There was a lot of stress for both the children and adults, and neither of them could really discuss it with each other because they were full of fear, and didn't want to end up saying the wrong thing.
The bottom two images on page 49 show the already strained relationship between Marjane and Laly based on their body language. Laly openly glares at Marjane and is put off by her presence due to her previous comments about Siamak. In image 2, Laly’s arms are crossed, her eyes are closed, and she’s frowning, hardly making contact with anyone in the room. Marjane, though, is very open and willing to become friends, and has contact with other people in the room.
The two images I'm focusing on are the one where Marjane tells Laly that her father is dead and the one where Marjane asks Laly if she wants to play and Laly says no.
In the first image Laly says that her father is on a trip, but Marjane tells her that when people say that someone is on a trip, it usually means there dead. Marjane seemed to be proud of herself that she knew what "on a trip" meant. She doesn't even seem to care that by telling Laly that her father is dead, she could really be hurting or feelings and that she doesn't even no for sure that shes dead.
In the second image after Laly's father has come home, Marjane asks Laly if she wants to play and Laly has her arms crossed and says no. She seems angry that Marjane made her think that her father was dead when he really wasn't.
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The images that I am focusing on are the image where Marjane says that Laly's father is dead and then the image where Marjane ask Laly if she would like to play and she says no.
In this first image, this is actually prior to when Marjane tell Laly that when they say her father was "taking a trip" it truely means that he is no longer living. Laly runs away crying. Now, consdering that this is a graphic novel, you can tell that when Laly was crying that she was sad about something and the Marjane had actually hurt her feelings a little bit.
The second image has something to do with the first because the way that Laly folds her arm when Marjane ask her if she wants to play. This shows that Laly still had sort of a more hostile feeling toward Marjane after what she has said to her.
In the second to last panel on page 48 the author is showing that Marjane is taking an almost evil pleasure in telling Laly that her father might be dead. In the image, Marjane's face has a huge smile acros her face with wide eyes. But Laly's face is showing hatred and resentment. Laly's face has sturn look with a huge frown. In a way their facial experessions are exact opposites. The last detal is there are slashing lines that connect their eyes and show the intensity of the moment.
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In the part where Marjane asks Laly where her father is, Laly replies, "on a trip" it shows that Laly doesn't know as much about the revolution as Marjane. It also gives me the impression that Laly's mother seems to have "babied" Laly. What I mean by this is that her mom doesn't want Laly to have suspicions about her father's whereabouts, so Laly's mother lies to her.
BRANDON JOHNSON>>>
Marjane has a bluntness that she cannot always control, especially as a young child. As children do, she speaks her mind. She often does not see any wrong in what she is stating and the harsh reactions she causes confuse her. Laly was informed that her father was on a trip. Marjane remembers how when her grandfather was "on a trip" he was really dead. Marjane tells Laly that her father is dead if they say he is on a vacation. Naturally, Laly is upset greatly when she hears this, Marjane ends up being incorrect, but Laly never forgives her.
You can see the tension between Laly and Marjane by Laly's stance in many of the illustrations. Marjane is obviously trying to talk and play with Laly, but Laly stands stubbornly with her arms crossed.
In another picture Laly is much bigger than Marjane. This shows that Marjane feels much less then Laly because her own father was not in jail, she felt that because her father was not in jail he was not a hero and therefore she was smaller and weaker then Laly in the picture.
on page 48 Marjane tells Laly that her father is dead. Marjane seems kind of embarrased about what she told Laly because in the second to last panel, Laly is crying meanwhile Marjane is making a sort of nervous smile while her mother is looking angry at Marjane. you can easily tell that by the electricity between their heads.
I also think that in the last panel of page 49, Marjane asks Laly if she wants to play and Laly says no. This shows that they arent the best of friends nd that Marjane is trying to make up for what she told Laly.
There's a panel on page 49 where Laly is crossing her arms with an attitude and Marji is just staring at her innocently, but guiltily asking "You want to play?" like nothing ever happened. Laly simply replies “No.”Without reading the text you can see in this panel that Laly has direct feelings towards Marji at this moment in time. It isn’t hard to see that Marji is requesting something from Laly, but Laly declines simply with a snobby attitude.
Previously Marji explains in her experience and perspective to Laly what being “on a trip” really means; being deceased. Laly responds in weeping and running off as if Marji had just offended her. When Laly’s father comes home and is not dead Laly get an I told you so attitude and crosses her arms.
-Kai
In the part when Marjane talks to Laly the topic of Laly's father being on a "trip" comes up. the text and pictures really align. They support each other. the text gives the background while the picture gives the details. in this selection specifically you can tell that the two characters aren't great friends, but they are close enough for Marjane to feel the need to keep it real with her. Marjane seems to do in an insensitive way. When the two charters reunite it seems as if Laly has grown up from the metaphorical slap that Marjane has placed on her cheek. there is more to this revolution than what the adults tell you.
Im focusing on the image where you first see Marjane and Laly together. They seem to not like each other. Marjane seems to be shying away from Laly and all together it looks like an awkward experience. It almost looks like when two little kids are meeting for the first time and they don't want to be with each other. The feeling seems to be unhappiness for both of the girls. Marjane and Laly both are frowning. It reminds me of kids waiting outside the doctors office have in a feeling of dread and fear that you might get a shot.
The sixth image on page 48 is Laly running away from Marjane in tears. This image shows Laly's hair very long, and blowing in the breeze, which almost gives her speed and an anxiety to leave Marjane. Marjane is dressed in dark colors, and Laly is dressed in lighter colors almost showing that Marjane is kind of some "dark news" and since Laly's dress has bits of black in it, it shows that the bad news is seeping into her with the help of Marjane. The fact that Laly is running away from Marjane shows a harshness or tension between these girls. Theres almost this idea that Marjane is kind of taking advantage of Laly, just because in this picture, she is somewhat taller. The way Satrapi shows speed with wind-lines shows a tension between the girls. It shows how speedy Laly needs to be to get away from the Marjane, which deffinatley shows a bit of harshness in the relationship of Marjane and Laly
I think a good example of Marjane and Laly's relashionship is on page 49 when Marjane asks Laly to play and Laly says no. Marjane feels bad about what she said about Laly's father. Marjane was just talking from experience. Laly does not seem to realize this because she still does not forgive Marjane.
Another image is on page 48 is when Marjane is smiling at Laly as if asking for forgiveness in a way. In reponse Laly looks at Marjane with a blatant sense of anger in her eyes. There is even a bolt between them which shows the intensity they face.
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I am analyzing three panels.
The first one is where Marj tells Laly that her father has died. It shows what children think when there are no adults around. In the second picture Laly is horrified at the fact and runs to her mother in terror. The mother of Marj looks at Marj in angst. This shows the result of it. The third panel is not ajacadent to the first two. Later on in the chapter, the father of Laly and a friend comes from prison. Due to this Laly calls her father a "hero" or "martyr" because of him going to prison and also celebrating his return as a citizen to society. Everyone thought well that people went to prison. The first two panels showed that death was worse than prison. The third showed that going to prison was the best apparently.
The three panels all show how life and childhood friendships go. At first when Marj is telling Laly her presumed "truth" she and her are close together. This shows the basis of childhood friendship. When she gets into a fight they are split up with Marj going into her room. That is when they split paths (like how friends go to different colleges) and they only see each other at celebrations (such as high school reunions or funerals or weddings). The third panel shows the celebration of the return of Laly's dad. That shows a brief time of meet but no longer holds the childhood friendship. By the time after the return they no longer are major friends that is the result of a process that usually takes about a lifetime.
I picked the image where Marji points at Laly and looks at her with authority. This image seems like Marji is pretending to be older and more mature than she is. Marji is insisting that Laly’s father is dead because, in her experience, that’s what happens when they say someone's on a trip. Laly feels sad because there is nothing she can do to counteract what Marji said. Laly's mouth is wrinkled and closed, reflecting the fact that she has no ability to respond because she is so powerless.(p 48)
In my other image Laly is huge while Marji is small. Laly's father has come back and she feels authority because she was right. Laly implies that, while her dad was a hero and had to endure many forms of torture, Marji’s dad was not. Marji feels like no one in her family is the same kind of hero that Laly’s dad is, so she is humiliated and sad. Even though it’s not fair to compare different forms of being a hero, Marji feels that Laly is right and that her father truly isn’t heroic. This also shows that Marji was wrong-- even if Laly's father was taken away, he was not murdered. Now Marji probably feels somewhat powerless, because the tables are turned.(p.52) Not only is Laly's father not dead--he is a hero.
Marji made an assumption without having any proof. Even if a lot of people were murdered, you should never assume that someone is dead. Marji is such a literalist that she can’t even hope or want things to be different. Now, while Marji has realized that everything isn’t always as it appears to be and while she has adopted a different point of view, it is to late because she has already hurt Laly. And, this kind of pain probably won’t be forgotten or forgiven.
There was an image on page 52 that stood out to me. In the picture Laly is telling Marjane that her dad is a hero and that Marjane's dad isn't. Laly is drawn much bigger then Marjane. This is like this to show the power and anger that Laly has. She is fed up with her father being seen as a man that was not very important so she as she yells or says "Maybe, but my father is a hero!" She feels very powerful. Marjane's face shows fear and shock. The lines around her head show that she is now paying much attention and is very surprised that Laly would scream and get so angry with her. I think this image shows how people in Iran and other people in the world are proud to represent there history and struggle that is in their family.
Another image I'm focusing is on page 49. Marjane is asking Laly if she wants to play. Laly obviously says no because she is mad that Marjane told her that her father was dead. She figured out that her father was really alive. You get the sense that Laly is really upset. She has her arms crossed, her eyes closed, and her back turned. When you are mad at someone you may cross your arms. You also turn your back to them to show that you do not want to interact or talk to them. In this one as apposed to the other, they are equal size. This is because nobody is showing great power to the other. This image can also symbolize how sensitive people are towards people they love and people that have fought for what they believed in.
On page 52 Maji has “shrunk” to a rather diminutive stature, while Laly is towering above her. Maji seems rather surprised at fact that she is no longer in control of the conversation. Throughout the entire book Maji seems to take control of others no matter the time or place. For instance, she forced her maid [Mehri] to protest with her. Mehri did not have to
protest, she was suppose to guard Maji.. Instead, she gave in, this indicates a social hierarchy
which has been established by Maji. When Laly blows Maji’s train of thought when exclaiming “maybe but my father is a hero”! Maji is shocked by the fact that Laly refused to agree with her. Later On she joins her friends, telling them they will play a torture game. Maji later feels like she has “diabolical power”. This again shows her dependance on power.
The first image i chose was the third panel on page 48. I think this image shows that Marji knows what it means when someone goes on a "trip". You can see in Marji's face that she feels bad for Laly. You can tell that Marji almost feels like an adult, like she has to break the bad news to Laly. When you look at Laly's face you can tell that she knows that her father is not just on a "trip". I think one of the most important reasons to have images in a book is that you can see the characters facial expressions. If the reader could not see Marji and Laly's faces they would not be able to tell that even though Laly says her father is on a trip you can tell from their expressions that neither of them really believe that.
My second image is the fifth panel on page 48. I think this picture is important because it shows that Marji is starting to doubt that every time someone says "on a trip" it means that the person they are talking about is dead. Like i said before one of the most important thing about images is that they show facial expression. You can tell that Marji feels bad right after telling Laly that her father is dead. She says to herself and to Laly that that was the case with her grandfather. I think another important thing about images is that they show feelings. Just reading the text you could never tell that Marji felt bad, you would just think that she was clarifying what she said to Laly.
The image on page 48 when Marjane is telling Laly that going on a trip means he is really dead. And the image on pg. 52 when Marjane is explaining to Laly that she wasn't completely wrong about the "going on a trip part."
In the 1st image on pg. 48. I think that describes Marjane and how she just jumps to conclusions. Basically Marjane repeats what other people have said. Marjane sort of acts like "the big sister" towards Laly. Marjane acts like she knows-it-all. And Lalys response is like "the little siste." But in the second image even though Marjane made a mistake she "clears it up" but the mistake is still there because again she's acting like the big sister. Except, Laly is responding differently towards Marjane, Laly's facial expression in the second one seems like she listened to Marjane once and she's not going to listen to her again.
On page 48, the relationship between Marjane and Laly wasn’t off to a good start because Marijane made her burst out crying when she said that Laly’s father is dead, which he really wasn’t but Marijane assumed he was. When Laly told her mother, she said that he wasn’t dead and overhearing about the, Marijane’s mother sent her to her room very angrily. Marijane said that sometimes the truth hurts but nobody will accept the truth, which in my opinion is true if the other person is disagreeing with you (that may have been off topic a little).
Also on page 52, it was the opposite for Marijane because while Laly was speaking to Marijane about Laly’s father, she proclaimed that “Maybe, but my father is a hero,” even though Marijane was right about him not being on a trip and wrong about her father being dead, which made Marijane feel bad about not having her father as a hero. She seemed a little jealous of Laly’s father, being a “hero” and all because she really wanted a hero in her family and knowing her father wasn’t a hero made her a little sad or depressed, thinking that Laly’s father might be a little bit more exciting and interesting and brilliant than her father.
-Brianna<3
If you look at the pictures with Laly on the first two pages that she is introduced you can see that Marjane and Laly almost never share the same expression on their faces. It seems like what Marjane said about her father being “on a trip” might have meant that he was dead seemed to hurt Laly. They seemed to be friends in the beginning but as the pictures in the book advance, their relationship gets more and more adversary until close to the end of the chapter when it starts to become a competition of who’s family is more heroic and which members suffered more as demonstrated by the third to last image on page 52 when Laly claims that her father was a hero for going through the suffering he went through. She is bigger in that image also.
I focused on the images from pages 48 and 50. on page fourty eight, I chose the picture where Marjane breaks the news about "traveling" to laly. on page 50 i wrote about the picture with the families together.
to Marjane, "taking a trip" refers to dying. as a child, she doesn't know how badly this could hurt other people. she is symply relaying life experiance. I think the picture showes what Marjane would have looked like eventualy if the revolution had continued and the Shah was still in power. Marjane looks depressed and Laly looks devastated. i think this picture showes the pasage of time and the continuation of depression/oppression.
in the picture on page 50. it seems as though the girls have switched families. marjane seams to bear more of a resemblince to Lalys mom and vice versa. I think this picture showes the two families conections and the way the girls would feel more at home with their opposites family. Marjanes family is more outspoken and more beliving. this would be a good environment for Laly becasue she needs reasurance that her father is alive. Lalys family is more activist and more for protests. Marjane is more of an activist than her parents and it would be helpful to have parents that supported her in her belifes.
in the chapter just by looking at the images you can tell that there is something about laly that marjane does not like. there is nothing wrong with expressing your opinion and speaking your mind but marjane crosses the line in this scene. i don't believe that marjane wanted to make laly cry but she definitely did not feel bad and she clearly thought of it as something you would say frequently. her expression as laly was running away showed that she was confused that she would cry about something like that. i think that marjane has a lot to learn about how the world works because clearly she doesn't know about people as much as she knows about politics. in order for her to become a profit she needs to discover everything about life not just the way countries work.
In the chapter "Heroes" Marjane shows the relationship between herself and Laly so well that if you were illiterate you would be able to understand what was going on in the book. At first they were not best friends but they were friendly towards each other. Then after marjane said to Laly that her father was dead you could see she was very upset, especially after her father came home from jail. Laly showed her back to Marjane and also showed hatred towards her. You could see this very clearly. After Laly forgave Marjane a tiny bit, she showed that she was proud of her father. Satrapi shows so much detail and emotion in her drawing sof Persepolis.
this is katherina! :P
I'm focusing on the image on page 49 in the bottom right corner and the one in the bottom left corner on page 52.
The first image where Marjane asks if Laly wants to play, and Laly doesn't even look at her when she says "No.". Laly is certainly hurt over what Marjane said when she said that Laly's dad was dead. This is really a time she should be happy and forgive Marjane, since her dad come back alive.
Looking at the second image, Laly is still mad at Marjane, because Laly is drawn double as big as Marjane, which makes her arrogant, and very proud over that her father was in jail.
That was Hanna. =D
The images of Marjane and Laly show that they do not have a good relationship. In the pictures when Marjane is getting put down by Laly father, when she ask Lalya to play and she says no, when Marjane is telling Laly that she was right her father did not go on a trip, and when Laly says that her father is a hero.
In the images when Marjane is getting put down by laly father and when she ask her to play and Laly says no, i think it shows that they don't have a good relationship. Laly seems kind of annoyed about her dad in away giving a lot of attention to marjane. Also Marjane said that her father was dead and disagree with what Laly thought her father was doing during that period of time. Marjane lookes like she doesn't know what she has done to offend Laly.
In the picture when Marjane is telling Laly that she was right about her father not being on a trip. Laly seems annoyed that she is right and doesn't really care what Marjane has to say. The next picture when Laly is drwn really big and says that her dad is a hero it shows that she is yelling. And once again Marjane looks like she doesn't what she has done wrong. Laly feels like a bigger person because her father is a hero.
I chose 2 images from the chapter "Heroes" and I chose the the visuals where Marjane insists that Laly's father is dead, and the second one is where Siamak and his daughter Laly are at Marjane's house where they reunite we Marjane's family, and Marjane asks Laly if she would like to play with her and Laly states that she does not want to play.
In the first image I picked, the relationship is pretty neutral, and they aren't friends or enemies. Marjane feels a sense of jealousy because her grandfather had died when he had gone out for a trip, but there is hope for Laly's dad, because there was no evidence that he was dead.
The second image connects with my first image, and that is after Laly's father, Siamak, is found. Marjane thinks up a way to sort of not have the conversation they had earlier about Laly's dad and that he would not survive, and Marjane wants Laly to forget it because Marjane was wrong, and Marjane was jealous. But Laly states that she does not want to play. This relationship is like a "I told you so" relationship and these "friends" go back and forth and one friend thinks one thing because of one of her past experiences, but when she finds out that it isn't true, the person likes to not speciffically tell the person I told you so, but instead she says it in other words.
The image that I am focusing on is on page 52 the third to last box.The image shows Laly towering over Marjane. It shows that their relationship is like a competition. Marjane told Laly that her father was dead, then Laly's father came back from prison and Laly says he is hero. That is the way it goes in their relationship, whoever is able to have a hero as a father or whoever seems to prove that the other girl's parent is dead, will be superior. Marjane and Laly are not really friends, their mothers are friends but they are not. Marjane and Laly are just competitors that take advantage of the times when they can feel superior.
i think that two signifigant images are when marjane says that her father is really dead and laly is about to cry; the other image is when marjane is being picked up and hugged by laly's father and laly is staring at them angrily.
this first image is important because it shows how marjane's mind is working because she feels like that was always true because that was what happened to her with her grandpa also i feel like she wasn't totally wrong because it seemed like laly's mother thought her husband was dead.
in the other image right after laly's father came home and he is picking up marjane and hugging her and you can see that laly is upset because she is glaring at then with arched eyebrows it seems like she is jealous because marjane said he was dead and now he was hugging her and he just came home from being in jail for seven years and she feels like he should only be paying attention to her.
I chose the image on page 52, panel number 4. In this image, Laly is very upset and defensive. Her eyebrows are crossed her hands are on her hips and there is a frown across her face. Marjane is very shocked and frightened at Laly's sudden bust of anger. The tone of this scene is primarily shown by the size of the people. Laky is much larger that Marjane. This symbolizes the feeling of both Marjane and Laly at the moment. Marjane is feeling small and frightened as opposed to Laly who has been overcome by anger towards Marjane.
I am going to focus on page 48 on the three middle panel. You can see how Marjane does not really think before she says things in this part of the book.
She tells Laly that when people say that someone is on a trip they usually mean that the person is dead. It shows in Laly's facial expression that she really got scared and she runs away crying.
Marjane only said that because she is basing it of of her own experience with her Grandfather and how people keep on telling her that he is on a trip when she actually thinks that he is dead.
I am focusing on the third image on page 49. It shows Marjane and Laly standing next to each other underneath their parents. Marjane is staring at Laly as Laly is turned and looking away from her. The parents seem to be ignoring the kids. There is a clear line in the background that splits the background color from black to white. You can see a tension between both girls as Marjane stares at Laly who seems to be ignoring her. It looks like there's been a fight. I think the background colors show the separation between the adults and children in their different worlds because they seem like two different scenes on one page. There's a dislike of the other between both girls. Marjane looks surprised in why Laly is mad at her and seems to be questioning why but at the same time staring at Laly as if it's silly of her to be mad. Laly seems like she is looking away because she doesn't want to look at or hear Marjane speak but there's a sense of Laly feeling like she should have a power over Marjane as well since Marjane hadn't been nice to her and an expectance of an apology.
on page 48, panel six, it shows Laly running away from Marjane when she suggests that her father is dead. this image shows not only the struggle that young children had to go through, but also the honesty that Marjane has about heroes, prisoners, and other victims. Laly finds it extremely saddening to picture her father dying in jail and runs away because she does not want to face the possibilities of that assumption to be true. Marjane's mother sends her to her room later on in the page because she finds it cruel for her daughter to torture and manipulate this young girl’s mind upon thinking that her father could have died. The tension between Laly and Marjane's friendship was evident after this incident because it was a very powerful and blunt statement to make in front of Laly who has been separated from her father for a while.
The image i am choosing to focus on is the last one on pg 49. this scene depicts both families, mirroring each-other. Marjane has previously told Laly that her father was dead and she proceeded to run away. This scene is when Lalys father is finally reunited with his family. Marjane is facing Laly, eagerly asking her to come play with her. Laly is standing erect facing forward with her eyes closed. Their posture shows contrast between both girls and Marjane's out outfit consists of mostly black while Lay's garments are a white sheen. After analyzing both little girls,one takes a look at both families. Majrjane's dad is looking down as if ashamed, and her mother is looking away distractedly. Laly's mother is holding on ho her husband and seemingly not paying attention to the scene. Laly's father is just standing upright which his eyes tilted downwards. You can see the awkward relationship between families that Marjane and Laly's fight has slightly affected.
She used one image where Marjane and Laly are discussing where her father is. Laly saids he's on a trip, and to marjane this meant he was dead. Because for past experiences and due to all her research about the revolution, when someone said their friend or relative was on a trip it meant they were dead. So Marjane told Laly that her father was dead because that was the understanding she had from that term "on a trip." Laly broke into tears in the image and ran to her mother asking if her father was dead and begging for her to say she wasn't. This showed that the revolution had a major impact not only for adults but it affected the lives of children as well. It also shows that the children were very aware of what was going on during Irans revolution, that they weren't blind about as some people thought they were.
There is another image where Marjane ask Laly to play and Laly saids no in a rebuffed manner. Marjane felt extremely reject, and didn't understand at the moment why Laly didn't want to play, but she remember after that what she said about her father affected her and changed her relationship with Marjane.
These images show that was extremely hard for everyone in iran, and they had to take life as it came, they couldn't rush it. They had to learn how to cope with their problems, and figure out ways to lead their family in the right direction without them falling apart. There was a lot of stress for both the children and adults, and neither of them could really discuss it with each other because they were full of fear, and didn't want to end up saying the wrong thing.
The bottom two images on page 49 show the already strained relationship between Marjane and Laly based on their body language. Laly openly glares at Marjane and is put off by her presence due to her previous comments about Siamak. In image 2, Laly’s arms are crossed, her eyes are closed, and she’s frowning, hardly making contact with anyone in the room. Marjane, though, is very open and willing to become friends, and has contact with other people in the room.
The two images I'm focusing on are the one where Marjane tells Laly that her father is dead and the one where Marjane asks Laly if she wants to play and Laly says no.
In the first image Laly says that her father is on a trip, but Marjane tells her that when people say that someone is on a trip, it usually means there dead. Marjane seemed to be proud of herself that she knew what "on a trip" meant. She doesn't even seem to care that by telling Laly that her father is dead, she could really be hurting or feelings and that she doesn't even no for sure that shes dead.
In the second image after Laly's father has come home, Marjane asks Laly if she wants to play and Laly has her arms crossed and says no. She seems angry that Marjane made her think that her father was dead when he really wasn't.
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