Saturday, December 6, 2008

"Tales of Greek Heroes" Chapters 2-3

Greek myths were created, in part, to teach a lesson or present a moral. What lesson or moral is at the heart of the story of Prometheus? What can we learn about the culture of the ancient Greeks through this myth?

40 comments:

eminem said...

Prometheus was good and bad in very different ways. when he gave fire to humans he disobeyed zeus, and was severely punished for his actions. when he gave fire to the humans he was being kind and generous because he was giving a very important tool, that which they could not live without. i think that the lesson of the story is that sometimes you have to do something bad in order for other people to benefit from it. in this case Prometheus new that zeus would do whatever in his power to make Prometheus suffer from his actions. but Prometheus didn't care and gave fire to mankind so they could live a happy and much better life then they would have without fire. i think that what Prometheus did is an important lesson that many people should follow.

erika said...

This chapter shows the good and bad things that you can get from disobeying an order. Prometheus did a good thing for humans by giving them fire, but a bad thing by disobeying Zeus and he was punished for what he did. This shows us that sometimes sacrifice is a good thing as well as a bad thing. In this chapter, we learn that sacrifice can help us in the future. Unfortunatley, Prometheus got a horrible punishment and lived like that. Prometheus knew that he was going to suffer like he did when he gave humans fire but did not care because humans were going to live much better with fire in their lives. Prometheus was very brave when he gave humans fire and I think this is a type of bravery that everyone should learn from.

♥ fashionG33K ♥ said...

When Zeus told Prometheous never to give man the power of fire, he thought that he could not disobey Zeus. Therefore, he taught men how to work without the power of fire. He taught them how to build houses, make tools, plough the earth, sow the corn and more. There was a slight problem to the job, it took forever to get those things accomplished and no one can wait that long.

Hence, Prometheus disobeyes Zeus and gave man the power of fire. This made thier lives easier because now, they have tools made out of iron they shaped, instead of rocks.

Nevertheless, Zeus still insists that because Prometheous gave man the power of fire, its a bad thing because only immortals should have it. Since Prometheous gave the power of fire to man, he was strongly punished.

However, i thought that Prometheous did do the correct thing because its not just the tools they build with fire makes thier life better but also they have heat in thier homes and they can now eat cooked meals.

Zeus knew that fire was a very important thing to life and he was selfish and insisted that the power of fire was only for immortals thus, he dint share it to the world especially to the mortals.

Though Prometheous has a sad ending, i thought that what he did to help the earth was very remarkable and it was very brave of him to sacrifice his life, when he saw it coming, just to give man the great power of fire.

I agree with Emmett that sometimes you have to to something bad in order to benefit from others because one small, bad thing can definately be fixed when alot of people can learn and use the power correctly.

♥ France ♥

Rodrigo9112 said...

When Prometheus gave fire to the hummans, Zeus was enfuriated by his dissobedience. Previously in the chapter before Zeus sent Prometheus to make hummans he advised him not to give them fire, if he didn't wished to suffer his rage. The moral in the story of Prometheous is that there is sometimes when you should disobey the higher power to benefit someoneelse. As Emmet said Prometheus did this because it was a very important thing that hummans where missing becuase it could serve for many uses.
This myth tells me that the acient greeks thought that when Zeus was mad (when thunderbolts fell out of the sky) where becuase he was enfuriated someone who did something that they should't have.

Unknown said...

I agree with what everyone has said. In the story of Prometheus and Zeus, multiple lessons and morals are represented. One of them is how disobedience can lead to both good and bad endings. Because of Prometheus's gift of fire, to the normal people, they were able to prosper. They could keep themselves warm and cook food. Then on the downside of this, Zeus felt that if the mortals had fire, they would feel more immortal and in the end be able to seem as mighty as the gods.

This story, also showed some of the ideas and morals of the mortal Greeks. It showed how much Zeus and the other Gods wanted to be disconnected from the humans. It shows this, because the Gods felt that if they gave the humans all the aspects they wanted and needed, in the end they might be just as strong and important as the Gods. The Gods didn't want this though,so they kept a lot of resources to themselves, and for any transfer between the Gods and the humans, the God would be severely punished.

djuna mks said...

I agree with the people before me in saying that the story of Prometheus tells you that sometimes you have to do something against the rules to do the right and moral thing, and to help. He gave Mankind fire, which he was not supposed to do, and it was against the rules but he did do the moral thing in the situation. He helped Mankind, and he gave then a gift from the Immortals, he was not selfish and just wanted to help. He knew what was to happen if he did give Mankind fire, but he did it anyway. He sacrificed his happiness for others. From this story you see that the rules are not always the decisions you must make. From this story you see how Prometheus went against Zeus and did what he felt he must do, he was punished, but he helped Mankind greatly.

eleanor mcgrath said...

i agree that prometheus did a good deed i sacrificing his life for the good of man kind. i think that the lesson is if you have the choice of saving many people or yourself you should save everyone else. from this myth we learn how the greeks became famous for craftsmanship and how so many things were introduced to the greeks (and the world) from the sacrifice of one life and some fire.

Kelsey Barbosa said...

When Prometheus gave the people fire it was all in a good gesture. It was also bad because he didn't follow his orders from Zeus. The moral of the story is that when giving a gift there's going to be different views of how to look at Prometheus gesture. it could've been a bad idea to give fire but it's being used in common sense. The culture of the ancient greeks is that if you disobey you automatically get a severe consequence. Listening is a very big skill for them because there are a lot of orders that are to be obeyed. And a lot of rules to be follow. When Prometheus gave fire it was for a good reason and his reason wasn't told. If Zeus didn't torture him and actually heard him out the outcome of the later on events could maybe be been prevented.

Unknown said...

I also agree with everyone's posts. When Prometheus gave man fire, Zeus was very angry that he disobeyed his order but atbthe same time, this helped man to live. So the moral is that sometimes it is better to disobey orders if it helps someone. Another moral is that hoy should share even if it means that you are making someone (who was greedy) unhappy. This story shows that Ancient Grreks believed that one of the Gods taught them everything that they know. It also shows that they believe that they were created from clay from the soil or from parts of mother nature. Meaning that they believe they are part of nature and are direct creations of the gods and nature.

austen said...

In this chapter you see the sugeation of rules/laws. And there are laws today. In an overview you really see how religion effects human life. I think the greeks mite be slow to trust because of this story. But also be giving at the same time.

sophie said...

At the begining of chapter two, Promtheus is depicted as a good titan. However, he disobeyed Zeus at the end of the chapter, by giving fire to mankind. He did this out of kindness, though. This proves that you can disobey your authority (mutiny), but still be doing the right thing, or at least a good thing. Prometheus also suffers for his actions. Because he knew of this, and helped his beloved humans anyhow, he must have been virtuous.

Najha said...

When Prometheus gave fire to humans, he did it out of kindness. Prometheus knew that fire was a vital for the exsistanc of mankind. But, by giving fire to humans, he disobeyed Zeus, the most powerful God of them all. Therefore he was punished for going against Zues's words. Though Prometheus was severely tourchered, he knew that he had done the right thing.

S H Y guy N101 said...

Prometheus disobeyed Zeus by giving fire to the humans. That was bad because Prometheus was punished. His punishment was also being good to the humans by giving them fire. He gave them the gift of warmth, light, and other excellent things. The humans also used fire for bad things such as punishments. Prometheus did this knowing that Zeus will make up a punishment that would be horrible and cause much suffering. This taught the Greeks that they would have to sacrifice things for others that would cause suffering.

Lucas said...

I think the story of Prometheus was showing a few things. I think it showed that one should respect one's elders and not disobey them. However it also is saying that sometimes one has to break a promise in order to do what they know is right. But even after this message this story again reminds you that even if you break a rule for the good of others, there will always be consequences. In my opinion This story was created in order to teach self-sacrifice, doing what is necessary for the greater good and putting others beofre oneself.

Julian Rivera said...

In the opening chapter Prometheus is punished severely by Zeus for giving the gift to wield fire to Man. I feel that the answer to this question is that in order to do what is right you must sometimes cross bounders and do what is considered wrong to others. What Prometheus did was in fact a benefactor to the Humans, fire helped them survive. What Prometheus did was a good thing in the eyes of some people who see what Prometheus really did. But in the eyes of Zeus what Prometheus did was wrong. But what the wrong thing was is how the Humans ended up using it. Bad and good is just opinions and perspectives. Its just that some opinions and perspectives make more sense in the situation.

Julian Rivera

englishkid said...

prometheus acted toward humanity with compasion and love. after giving them fire zues punished him severely for his actions. however the human race couldn't survive without the gift of fire wich Prometheus gave to them selflesly knowing what would happen to him. this proves that you must do things that are helpful to others even with a great cost to yourself.

englishkid said...

the culture of the ainchent greeks followed the tails of the gods so the fact that prometheus helped them at his own expense was to say that they should live like that as well. sorry for not answering the full question before Tom

kwame aka englishkid

Unknown said...

The lesson that we learned from Prometheus's story is to do what you think is best. We learn that the ancient greeks believed that the gods can be very kind people because Prometheus was told by Zeus that he would be severely punished if he gave humans fire but he did not care becaused he loved the human's as his own family so he gave them a very important factor that helpsus live today. this is katherina

Adin Levy said...

The story of Prometheus teaches that sometimes when you know that you will be punished, you still should follow your instincts and do what feels right. Zeus told him to create man and teah them how to get on but not to give them fire. Prometheus soon realized that fire was an essential element for a man to live normally. Even though Zeus sad no, Prometheus became very involved with his mortals and had strong relationships with his creations. He felt he had to give them fire beause he cared so much. He knew the consequences but acted selflessly anyway. This story is also important because it shows a darker side of Zeus and teaches people that Zeus isn't brilliant, nice, and the oppisite Cronos. It shows that he actually somehow takes after his father in some ways and he does punish/torture if people defy his power.

Noah said...

In the story, I believe Prometheus does a great amount of good. Although he doesn't want to disobey Zeus, he feels it is crucial to give fire to the humans. I think this shows the moral of doing an act than might not help you but helps others. Prometheus knew Zeus would be enraged if he shared fire with the humans, but he does so to help the good of the people. It helps them bake food, cook meat and create warmth.

The story also shows the moral of keeping a promise and respecting others, but knowing what the right thing to do is. Prometheus wants to respect what Zeus says and knows what will happen if he doesn't but knows the right thing to do is to help the people. This also shows to keep more than one idea in your head. Prometheus thinks about what Zeus has said but also thinks about others.

PETER V. said...

the story of promeathious tells a very inteaging story of how he was so divoted to his creation that he was willing to die athousand death so that they could learn. he was truly devoted. the moral of the story in my eyes is the the bad thing to do is not always the wrong thing. promeatious was told not to give humans fire, this being was he was not suposed to do, he acsepted this fate and lived with it but it was soon that he realized that if he didn't give humans this power he would have a created somthing worthless. he gives up his life in a way, in order to creat a beter creation. the moral is also that doing the right thing is not always the right thing for you

Sara Galeano said...

The lesson that is at heart of story of Prometheus is, i also agree with everyone, that you have to think of others before yourself. Prometheus was told not to give the gift of Fire to mankind for Zeus said Fire was only for the Immortals and if he did he would be severely punished for disobedience.The reason Prometheus did give Fire to Man was because he saw how they suffered without it. Prometheus soon taught then men how use it and the other "arts and crafts of life", such as building houses, making tools, creating crop/food, taming animals, and making clothing. Even with all these skills, Fire was still needed. Prometheus made a decision to give the gift of Fire to the men even though he was going to face Zeus's wrath, which shows the type of courage Prometheus had that everyone should ensue.

What we can learn, through this myth, about the culture of the ancient Greeks is that they taught many of their principles,morals, and rules through myths of their gods.

Janet.O said...

As many before me said, Prometheus disobeyed his father, but did a good thing for man kind. These chapters show us a couple of things. Disobeying may lead to good results, but not for all. Because after Zeus found out that Prometheus gave fire to the humans he ordered him to a cruel punishment, and to his own son. These two chapters also show that deceiving may not always lead to a good result or semi-good result. In the case of Prometheus giving fire the Mankind, there was an upside to disobeying. However, when Pandora disobeyed her husband and opened the small box in their house, nothing good came out of that scenario.
Through these myths we learn about the evolution of mankind as the Greeks reencounter it. We learn that the Greeks had a very strong belief in ancient gods and worshipped them. Through these stories we san see that the culture is vey strong, and many strong beliefs of various sorts mean a lot to the Greeks, and set order into their world.

Thamyr.D said...

I agree with Emmett that Prometheus was good and bad in different ways. when prometheus gave fire to the humans he thought that it would help them but, he also knew that he would be disobeying the commmands that zeus gave him.I think the lesson of the story is tha sometimes good comes out of something they is consider bad to someone else. In this myth you see that this culture is voilent and doesn't give people second chances.

Tyra said...

Prometheus, makes me think back to To Kill A Mockingbird in terms of good and evil can co-exist in a person. I think this analysis can work for a situation too. For example when, he gave fire to the humans he was disobey Zeus. Prometheus was trying to do the right thing knowning that he would get in trouble. This shows how Prometheus was willing to sacrifice himself for the community. Zeus didnt understand that. I think this shows how much more Maturity and Power Prometheus really has over Zeus in a thereotical way. Rather than physical.

Zoya said...

One of the lessons could be that with disobiedience comes punishment. The greeks were punished for meddling with Zeus's wishes. They also learned that Zeus is very powerful. Maybe it was a good thing that they learned this lesson, now they know the power of Zeus.

J dog said...

Rex:
The Ancient Greeks have created gods and goddesses to explain for the natural situations in their world and to maintain control over the people by the monarchy.
The story of Prometheus represents that any achievement is needed for sacrifice, and any action has its consequences.
The ancient Greeks are also confused by the fact why evilness exists in the world today, just like us. WIthout more sensible explanations, they told that Pandora accidently released all the evilness and disasters into the world. It is a adventure to discover how the ancient Greeks have described the ancient world in referring to the divine beings that they believe in.

Unknown said...

Perhaps the story of Prometheus was created after the Greeks had seen the many evil ways that mortals used fire, and so the Greeks understood that the immortals of Olympus would give the most severe punishment to the one who brought mortals that evil. I think that the moral, or message of this story, shows that the future can effect the past in the same way the past can effect the future.

daniel said...

I believe that Prometheus followed what he believed in. Although Zeus told him not to give humans fire he disobeyed him to do what he felt was right. He was willing to accept the fact that there would be consequences to his actions, but he thought it would help the human race for the better. The lesson learned here is not to go against your elders words and that although you believe in something it is important to listen to your elders. Prometheus was taught the important lesson of disobedience.

itai said...

i thnk the story of Prometheus told people that sometimes it is good to disobay. it was good for Prpmetheus to disobay zues because he helped the humans, but it was bad for him because he suffered the consecuences

Kid Kaos said...

I believe the story of Prometheus shows a sign of ruling, that bad things happen to those who disobey, This would seem like an evil story to a child and make the child believe that they should obey the law or they would suffer the consequences. Or maybe that you should do whats right for other people before yourself, self sacrifice seemed big in the Prometheus story.

Kid Kaos said...

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J dog said...

I think that the story of Prometheus teaches us that if people need something than they should get it if they are the future. Prometheus new that if he gave the mortals the gift of fire, that that gift would stay. Zeus couldn't do anything about it so he punished Prometheus. I think that it was smart what Prometheus said. It really scared Zeus. I agree with everything that Emmett said.

kabanzzz said...

This teaches the lesson saying that even if you know that you will be hurt by the right things, do it anyway. Promenthieus did the right thing by giving humans fire, even though he knew because he could tell the future, that he was in for great trouble and pain.

guitarherofingers said...

This chapter shows that you cannot disobey your elders (Zeus being Prometheus's elder). Prometheus was good in giving the people fire they needed it. It was not used to harm anyone by the humans. Zeus wrongfully punished him. Prometheus was selfless and he proved that he was a good man. This story might have encouraged rule breaking or helping others, depending on how you interpret it.
Prometheus's love for humans prevailed and Zeus was triumphed.
Pablo

Ife said...

I think the primary aim at that time of civilization was to enforce that Zeus was to be obeyed and feared for his power and might. Prometheus, who only wanted to help mankind, disobeyed his ruler and faced the punishment. It was a noble and selfless act, which I think is another moral we can pick up from the story that people should follow today. Despite these things, I think another thing we can sense from Zeus extreme punishment is the commonly barbaric acts that kings and mankind committed in the early times. It wasn't pretty. Every day Prometheus's liver was eaten away, only to regenerate by night and go through the pain the next day. THrough the course of the short stories, you can also see in relation kings chaining daughters to stones to be eaten by monsters, rulers eating their own disobedient children, and gods turning hateful human beings into hideous monsters, and a whole lot of trickery along the way.

Anonymous said...

Prometheus gave fire to humans which was very good for them but, that action also dissobeyed Zeus' orders.
Zeus was furious because fire gave the humans power that was god-like. In the end Prometheus was severely punished for his actions of what i thought was kind.

matt said...

In the ancient Greek stories, Prometheus is a good titan who is given guardianship over the first humans. Zeus tells him to do what he wants, just not give the people fire. Seeing humanities pain without it, Prometheus decides to be disobedient to Zeus and steel fire. I think that moral of this myth is to be both respectful of requests, and to try and help people when possible. Through this story, we can learn about how Greeks saw everyday life with the continual presence of the gods.

bartstile15 said...

I think that Prometheus may have disobeyed Zeus, but still did the right thing which was giving humans fire (which is a necesity). this proves that the bad thing to do can also be the right one. the moral of the story is that if you help someone and get punished for it, it was worth it and you helped someone.

MaiteCaballero said...

This story shows Prometheus as an unselfish man (titan). He was thinking only of his love for humans, his creations, when he gave mankind fire. He knew he would be greatly puinished, and he had seen Zeus's punishments before. But still he thought "My work will never be done, if I dont give humans fire. I am their creator, but I will never really teach them to their full extent, if i don't give them fire" Prometheus still acted, even though he knew he would be greatly punished.

That is the message that comes across to me viewing this myth from the 20th century, but maybe the greeks wanted to leave a different impact. Maybe like "If you disobey a command you will be greatly punished"( and Prometheus was, I mean everyday and eagle come to eat his liver, then its re-grown so it can happen again).