Tuesday, December 9, 2008

"Tales of Greek Heroes" Chapters 5-6 Blog Post

What is the lesson of the story of Cadmus? What does it say about the ancient Greeks and their relationship to the gods?

39 comments:

bartstile15 said...

i think that it shows that the gods are sometimes greedy or selfish or even jealos even though they are always worshiped (hera). i think that the lesson is that little guys can do big things too. also, i think that anyone can help anyone else. and that all people can be in danger; even a god. and that princes are not greedy and contradicts the stereotype.

eminem said...

i think that the story of cadmus represents the life lesson of trust. i think that it is very important to trust people. if everyone in the world didnt trust each other then people would not be able to live with each other. trust is a very big necessity in life. i also think that this shows that the people of ancient greek would do anything for the gods. they would respect them on sight and tend to their needs.

Rodrigo9112 said...

I think the lesson of Cadmus is that sometimes you must rely on others. I think this becuase if Hermes or Pan had faced the Typhoon they would have been easily beaten if their father, Zeus didn't stant a chance. Instead of doing this they disguised a prince as a sherpard and got him to trick the trecherious creaacher becuase it suspected nothing from him. This shows that everyone can contribute something to anything. In this case only the PERFECT humman can help but various times it is different.

eleanor mcgrath said...

i think this story represents that sometimes mortals are stronger then immortals.i agree with emmett that if you don't trust people you can't live. i also disagree with him because you shouldn't trust everyone. there are some people in life who are just untrustworthy.

Kid Kaos said...

I think that Cadmus represents a way of telling the Greeks that they should work together for a greater cause. This greater cause can be many things, sometimes it means that you can help those above in rank at you, it can be doing things together to achieve a cause that would be impossible to do alone. Because it is impossible to do alone they used the story to tell the Greeks, do things for those above you, they would help you and the world. When Zeus promised Cadmus to be king, this is a way of showing, helping higher ups can get you higher up.

Kid Kaos said...

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Lucas said...

i agree with Emmet that the story of Cadmus represents trust. If Hermes and Pan had not trusted Cadmus to do as they told him, the Typhon could have become the ruler of heaven and Zeus would be dead. This story also shows the level of trust that mortals had in the Gods. Typhon, if angered, could have easily killed Cadmus but even when Cadmus realized this he remained faithful to the Gods. Cadmus could have died but he trusted Hermes and Pan to be truthful, and assumed correctly that they were not sending him to his death. I think this story shows that the Gods might have never gotten out of many sticky situations if it weren't for the mortals. It also shows how loyal mortals were to the Gods, and that when a mighty God was hurt (Zeus in this case) they try to help out of sheer kindness and respect for the Gods, even when tempted and/or bribed by the other side (Typhon).

austen said...

You really see the Vaulnrability gods have to each other. Also that Gods are all mighty and powerful need help at times. Also that Humans can be brave. I think that the Ancient Greeks were pawns of the gods.

Noah said...

I agree with Lucas and Emmett. the story of Cadmus represents trust but it also represents being helped. If anyone in that story would have not trusted another, their plan would not have worked nearly as well. It also represents being helped and not being reluctant to ask for help. Also not needing someone high and powerful to be helped by. If Zeus, Hermes and Pan had not asked for help or assistance from Cadmus, the story would be very different. Immortals and mortals aren't afraid to interact with each other. Though it is easy to see that the immortals have more power than the mortals and, immortals do not overuse their power. Mortals have great respect for Gods and seem to help them just because they are Gods.

Najha said...

I agree with Rodrigo in the sense that the immortals are not the only ones that have the ability to solve HUGE porblems. Cadmus, played a few beautiful soothing melodies on his pipe, which put Typhon the great beast to sleep.
Ancient Greeks, did many things to help their gods, becasue gods ultimatley controlled the fate of mortals, and earth itself. Also, the mortals could always count on the gods for returning the favor like granting them immortality.

Thamyr.D said...

I think the story of Cadmus shows that even gods get jealous and greedy like humans. So i think that is showing that gods are the same as humans but in a higher position. I also think that its show trust because in the story it seemed like the gods trust each other but the would just betray them. The relationship with the gods and humans seemed to be like regular but, people always want to do bad to them. When people do bad to them there is always one person that is respectful to the gods. When humans are disrespectful to the gods the gods will always do something bad to them but not kill them.

Unknown said...

I agree with Lucas as well. The story of Cadmus signifies trust and a sense of friendship. Trust was a big factor in the story because if there was no trust, Thphon would have overthrown Zeus and the other gods. The world would then turn to chaos and the humans would live in greater fear than the fear they have for Zeus. This story shows that the antient Greeks trusted the gods and believed that if they pleased them, the gods would reward them with infinate happiness and an everlasting bond with the gods.

S H Y guy N101 said...

I think this story tells people that Gods can be selfish or jealous and have the same kind of feelings as mortals/humans. Gods just have special powers but that doesnt make them able to do everything. Humans can do things like the Gods do too. This story shows that nothing is impossible.

Unknown said...

As everyone previous to my post has said, trust is a very key them in the story of Cadmus. It shows a trust between Gods, but it also shows a lot of trust between the mortals and the immortals.

The Greek immortals believes the Gods all the time. It was a way of living that almost all of them stood by. They all had faith in the Gods and Goddesses. They were able to explain all of their life questions by referring to the Gods. They never doubted the Gods, and they thought of them as creatures who should always be respected and trusted.

Julian Rivera said...

In these two ch. Of this book it shows that even mere gods cannot always be happy.And also that gods can have human traits.

Adin Levy said...

The story of Cadmus represents how the Ancient Greeks would do anything for the gods and to get power. He is basically dropping his whole family just so he can gain power. Also, Cadmus risked his life for the possibility of power.

I also agree with the previous posts that were talking about trust. Before, I didn't think that there could be a strong trust between mortals and immortals but this story proved me wrong. I think that this represented how the ancient greeks thought of the oracles because the gods and the oracles wuld need to have a certain amount of trust if they communicated so freely.

Kelsey Barbosa said...

The lesson is of Cadmus is having respect and the trust of friendship. Cadmus had to have trust and respect for the gods to find a wife. If he didn't believe Hermes and Pan he wouldn't of married Harmonia. If he never agreed to help them Zeus would have been defeated by Typhon and the Greek Gods would be in some trouble. The ancient Greeks had a very planned out relationship with the gods and a give and take relationship. Because each god had a power, and had that class that can order the mortals around. Everything was planned for the gods and in some way for the mortals. Everything is so easy for the gods, they try to make life easier for the mortals which makes life so organized. Life isn't suppose to be that way.

Zoya said...

I think that the lesson of Cadmus shows that giving is not a one way street. This is the first myth where a mortal has actually helped an immortal. The gods always give, whether it is good fortune to somebody who has sacrificed heavily in their honor, or serving out justice to those who have been greedy or selfish. In this myth, Cadmus saved the entire greek god race. He gave and then received good fortune back for his kind deeds. This a message to all humans to respect and give to the gods, the story of Cadmus shows that if you give you will receive back generously for things as small as playing a lyre for Zeus.

Tyra said...

I agree with Noah, Lucas and many others that the story of Cadmus symbolizes trust. If they didnt show that kind of communication then it would turn chaotic. It shows how much mortals and gods rely on each other. So its kind of like a give and take relashionship. Even though Gods are of higher value they still consider the knowlege of mortals. So even though Gods have so much power, they still need help when making crucial decisions because with one bad one, it will be all on there shoulders.

erika said...

This story showed the lesson of trust, just as Emmett said. This story showed how the Immortals trusted the mortals to help them with some if their needs. This showes that the relationship between ancient Greeks and the gods is a close one. By close, I dont mean that they were all great friends, but that they understood that sometimes people will need to lean on someone for help.

Sara Galeano said...

The lesson of the story of Cadmus, I also agree with emmet, is trust but also, i think, good karma. I say this because in the time of need Cadmus was needed to help save Zeus's power from the monster, Typhon. Although Typhon made Cadmus a tempting offer of a royal reward, Cadmus still remained loyal to Hermes, Pan, and Zeus without the fear of his life being in danger, when he was told it wouldn't be. I think this story is about good karma because when Cadmus did this dangerous good deed, not really expecting any thing in return, he was a great life as Zeus had planned.

This story between the ancient Greeks and their relationship with the Gods, says that the mortals had a great adoration for their Gods. Because Cadmus did help return Zeus's power to destroy Typhon, out of the goodness of his character. While still having a respectful, trustworthy relationship with them.

Janet.O said...

I agree with many others that the story of Cadmus is a story of trust. But not only trust that you have for others, but the trust you have for yourself.
the characters chose to put their lives in someone else's hands, an act that could only happen if you really trust the person. It was a huge risk, but also the most ethical choice to make. I think that this story says that even the super beings get in to some typre of trouble, and may need the humans help. The sttory might show that the greeks feel so close to the gods that they would defend them in any chance they got.
But thinking back, and remembering Zeus powers, was the whole plot out of trust..... or did Zeus KNOW what was going to happen therefore allowing Cadmus to preform the tasks for him.

itai said...

I think that the story shows that humans would do anything for gods even if they are doing something more important.

J dog said...

The story of cadmus represtents trust. It also represtents bravery and shows that a lot of the Greeks will do anything a god will ask of them. Even if it is as dangerous as the one cadmus.

kabanzzz said...

I think that it shows that even though the gods have everything they need, they always want more, and they do not like to be disobeyed or having something taken away from them. Because of this, the Greeks bow down and praise the gods. They do not want to upset them because they know what they have done when they are upset in the past, according to their stories

PETER V. said...

the story of cadmus showss how selfish and greedy the gods realy were. even though the gods were worshiped they whad the same human amotions as us all. ecspetialy hera, the queen of the gods. she is jelous of all human that interfeared with her relation ship with zues. thhe lesson is that even the smallest of us can make the biggest of changes.

sophie said...

I think that the story of Cadmus shows that the gods aren't perfect, because they posses human like qualities. This almost gives a sense of equality between the humans and gods. I agree with Eleanor: Sometimes people are more powerful than gods. This is true even though gods have more abilities than humans. This shows that although the ancient greeks worshipped their gods, the did not view them as perfect, but more as humans with supernatural abilities.

MaiteCaballero said...

The story of Cadmus shows that even though gods are all-mighty, and have powers, humans can still do things just as effectively or more. An Example of this is when Zeus fights Typhon, and Typhon takes his sinews, and leaves Zeus on the mountainside.

Hermes and Pan devise a plan to get them back. But to carry their plan out they need a human. That is how Cadmus enters the story. Hermes and Pan talk to him and he agrees to help. Cadmus fools Typhon and get Zeus's sinews back. These three powerful greek gods (Zeus, Pan, and Hermes) could not of done it without the help of Cadmus. A simple human.

This greek myth proves my point. Greek gods were higher up, and humans worshiped them, but they needed the help of Cadmus, to overthrow the last titan. In greek history humans and gods were closely entwined, and some gods even had a mortal parent. Some mortals became gods, such as Hercules. Mortals and Immortals are both equally capable of doing anything, and in this story, the gods needed the help of simple humans.........

djuna mks said...

This story shows how though gods are so looked up too and worshipped, many times they need the help of mortals. This story also beings up how gods are not perfect. The gods are constantly being jealous and and mean, and in this story it shows how they can also be weak. Gods can be weak and can need help from mortals. Prince Cadmus was the one who helped Zeus, a mortal helped a god.
When the people of Greece were told this story they probably wanted to do the same, they wanted to be good and to help the gods, and get rewarded. This story probably motivated them to try and do good.

Ife said...

The story of Cadmus wouldn't have existed had not their been an epic battle between the king of the gods and the most disastrous an d dastardly of all the monsters the Earth has ever produced, Typhon. Zeus in truth, succumbed in the fight when Typhon cut off his limbs. But Typhon also received his fair share of battle and was very weakened when it ended. But Zeus had sons who cared about whether or not Olympus would fall into the hands of monsters. Hermes and Apollo talked to Cadmus, a roaming prince who was sent out by his father to look for his sister. The gods instead took him and used him to destroy Typhon by making him out to be a shepherd. He set Typhon to sleep by playing the pipes of Pan. Typhon, before falling to sleep, gave Cadmus the limbs of Zeus, and CAdmus et out to give them to Zeus. Zeus received them, gained his power back, and immediately went to destroy Typhon, and that he did so. As a reward, Cadmus received a lovely bride named . and the city of Thebes. This story shows that good deeds wont go unrewarded and once again shows the brute strength of the almighty Zeus. Humans on his side have nothing to fear and a re usually used to do further his dominion on Earth.

Anonymous said...

I feel that the story of cadmus represents trust. It represents trust because if there was no trust their plan would have not fallen through as well as it did. The immortals had to trust the mortals and vice versa.

katherina said...

the story shows the respect that the humans had for the gods.

Unknown said...

I think the story of Cadmus tells how an immortal and a mortal both need to rely on their own kind as well as their opposite. It is also a lesson on how music can be the only thing that can merge with the powers of the gods to face a demon like Typhon.

matt said...

I think that the story of Cadmus shows how the gods are not just tyrants who rule the universe. It shows how they can be compassionate in times of need and how they can repay deeds done for them. The main lesson being taught is to always repay favors.

daniel said...

I agree Lucas, Emett, and Noah that the story represents trust. The gods figured out that even they need help sometimes. Gaining the trust of someone else can be very difficult and to risk lives on behalf of someone else was very brave of the gods. Without the gods being able to trust Cadumos their plan would not have worked out. The story shows that trust can go along way and help you in the long run.

Julian Rivera said...

I think the story shows a lesson in trust and how to trust other people.

♥ fashionG33K ♥ said...

I think that all the stories the Greek Gods told are based on things we have now, problems, issues, feelings, things and more.

I also think that because there are Greek Gods who rule the ancient greeks, there were problems between them. Probably, the ancient greeks thought the Greek Gods were selfish and mean, though theyre like that maybe to know whats best for thier people. And another thing that the people have within the Greek Gods was trust; for them to feel "safe" and like they can actually believe that they can make things right.

Rodrigo9112 said...

Rex:
Cadmus was born of royal heritage, he was the prince of a large kingdom. Yet he is willing to lower his class to a shepherd to assist Zeus to defeat Typhon the Terrible. The story tells us the element of common purpose. People and Gods may be of different classes (Zeus regarded himself and other deities higher class), but they still have to work together to solve certain issues. It also tells that different people have unique abilities of a great variety.

englishkid said...

in the cadmus mith the gods where forsed to enlist the help of a human so as to save zues. the people used this mith to give them importance a sivilazation grew. the gods where not entirely all powerful and the humans wanted worth