Thursday, December 11, 2008

"Tales of Greek Heroes" Chapters 7 Blog Post

What role did fate play in the story of Perseus? What did it say about the role of destiny in the belief system of the ancient Greeks?

38 comments:

katherina said...

Fate played ot a very strange role in the story of Perseus. I say this because the oracle knew what was going to happen, the events that happened were very akward and coincidental. One example is when Perseus kills his grandfather, it was by accident.He killed his grandfather by the throwing the disc to hard and it hit an old man which was his grandfather, but the oracle told the tuth and what would happen.The book said that the role of destiny always comes true.

eminem said...

chapter seven talks about Perseus and what he went through. most people in this story that are important end up being aided by the gods. in this story and many others, also talk how they came to be great. i think that it was fate that everything in chapter seven that happened, happened. Perseus and the other mortals are lucky yet at the same time are not. they are supposed to be the person to accept this fate. wether it is bad or good. i also think that the ancient greeks might have felt the same way. people might have thought that when certain things happened, they happened because of faith.

matt said...

In the story of Perseus, Fate played a very discrete part. Only in the beginning and finally of the story is fate mentioned. However, fate constantly played a role in the story, pushing Perseus out the door. It always seemed to loop back to the warning at the beginning of the story, especially when Perseus kills his grandfather with the discus. I think that fate and destiny were incredibly important in Greek society, but less important than the gods’ will.

djuna mks said...

In this story Perseus lived on without knowing the fate, and what was to come. He did not know that he was meant to kill his grandfather, but in the end what was told of the future came true. Although, in this instance it was an accident.
I think that fate plays a big part in Greek mythology, and that a lot of life is already set out for them. Although, as mortals I am not sure how they would know what is to come. They might think that everything that happens to them is brought by fate. Fate is complicated, because if they do think that everything that happened was going to happen they could not really blame anyone for wrong doings. But I do believe that fate was an important part of Greek mythology.

erika said...

Even though fate takes a big part of Greek Myths, they are not spoken of very often. fate comes when it comes in the story of Perseus, it wasnt something that you had to be worring about every day. the role of destiny always happens according to the book.

S H Y guy N101 said...

Destiny played an important part in the story of perseues. It was introduced when the oracle made up the prophecies and predicted the future. Perseus did kill his grand father. The oracle didnt say how but perseus did kill him by throwing a disc too hard and hit an old man that was his grand father. Fate is just a major theme in Greek Mythology.

englishkid said...

the ainchent greeks beleave whole heartedly in the gods so fate must have been partly new to them. I think they still beleivefd in the gods so fate didn't play much of a role

austen said...

I think fate was the gods. Because the gods wanted to punish the king who sent his daughter and child adrift into the sea. Also I think it was the gods because Hermes and Athene helped persus immensly. But in the greek days I think things like this were more rigged against the "Hero" but if he previaled the "Gods" where with him.

Janet.O said...

Fate played a role in which it shows that you can’t prevent your destiny from prevailing.
The story of Perseus shows a lot about the belief system of the ancient Greeks. It shows that the ancient Greeks believed that all events in their universe could occur and they will still find that the prophecy that they were given would come true. In many ways I feel that the ancient Greeks should not have asked to hear their prophecies’, because since they knew it would come true, they would spend all their lives trying to prevent their destinies’ instead of living in the moment and being grateful for all that they have. for example, king Acrisius spent a good portion of his life doing everything, and anything, that could prevent him from being killed by his only grandson. He locked his only daughter in a tower, then after his grandson was born he put his daughter and grandson into a chest and let them float away into the sea, where many terrible events could occur. And even after he made sure that he couldn’t possibly see them ever again, he fled from Tiryns but then gets stuck by a round iron disc thrown by the hand of his grandson Perseus, and gets killed instantly, fulfilling the oracle. While on the other hand, Perseus knew nothing about the oracle, living his life to the fullest extent and he then gets happily married to a women he loves. The saying is: “expect the unexpected” and by having knowledge of what lies ahead for you, you will always know what the unexpected is, therefore taking away the excitement in life.

bartstile15 said...

I agree with Katherina 100% because as she said destiny ALWAYS comes true. this shows that the greeks all have a fate/destiny, and whatever happens to them in their life is uncontrolable. It has already been decided by the gods; and all there is to do is live the life you have to the fullest.

Lucas said...

I agree with Matt that although it seemed that fate only occasionally affected the story, it was actually existent throughout the whole story. Fate and destiny are greatly used in the part of the story where it was prophecized by an oracle that Acrisius would be killed by his grandson, Perseus. Even though Perseus and his grandfather had complete control over their actions, they had no control over their destinies. The ancient greeks believed that no matter what choices one makes in one's lifetime, the end result (their destiny) would remain unchanged. In a way the ancient greeks though of fate as a sort of shadow; it is always with you even when it seems to dissapear, and it is impossible to get rid of, no matter how far you run.

MaiteCaballero said...

Fate is really commical, in this story, it showed me that even though you know the futre it, is not helpful at all, because you will try to change it. Usually scince you dont know how or why the event in time will happen it is acctually a really different scenario. But no matter how hard you try, fate always outwits you, and it ends up happening, in different ways than you would think.

When the oracle told Acrisius that his grandson would kill him, he shut Danea up in the bronze tower. Yet Zeus still went and visited her, and got her preagnant. Acrisius went into a fury, and ordered a wooden coffin made for her and the baby and he left them in the ocean, hoping they would drown. But they lived and Perseus grew up and went on the quest to kill Medusa. After all these important events, you forget about the oracle's prophecy, but when Perseus accidentally killed his grandfather in the Olympic games with a iron disc, you remember. Fate had twisted it all, and the prophecy was actually a different one that you had originally thought.

eleanor mcgrath said...

i agree with Austen that in the greek days things were more rigged. if something good happened to you it was usually because the gods were happy with you if something bad happened it was because the gods were mad at you. i can prove this because when ever someone insulted the greek gods or said "i am so much better than that god, they couldn't beat me." they either died, became a horrible creature or became a animal and then died. one example of this is Arachne she boasted that she was better then Athena and she was turned into a spider.

Kid Kaos said...

Fate seemed to be sending Perseus in many different ways, to me it seemed to be messing around with him. The oracle talks so literately, and also indirectly. it said that Perseus' motherwould be protected by Dictys, yet his mother had become a slave. Yes the oracle was right, she was not forced to marry the evil king, but she was turned into a slave

sophie said...

The story of Perseus shows that fate is important, but it is the actions and decisions that we make that decide who we are and what happens to us. Perseus could not change his fate, and neither can people. The fate of ancient greece depended on the gods will, just as the life of Perseus. Even though he could not challenge his fate, Perseus changed his life. This shows that the ancient greeks believed in fate as well as in the gods. This is reflected into many religions and people today, as some believe in fate, but also in a powerful god.Perseus did not know of his fate until it happened, showing that the gods provide guidelines more so that fate, which often seems invisible.

Rodrigo9112 said...

Fate took a quiet but important role in the story of Persious. In the begining of the story it is mentioned that Persous would kill his grandfather. His grandfather atemts to escape Persious, he achives this for a long time but when his grandfather is an old man Persious kills him by acsident while threing a discus. This shows that acient Greeks belived every oman or profesy that apears to them.

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Najha said...

I think that fate played three main roles in the story of Perseus. The first being his survial despite having to fight creatures stronger and more powerful than himself. Also he killed Medusa, and ran away from her sisters. Second, he met his future wife, Andromeda, who was chained to the side of a mountain. Lastly, Perseus kills his grandfather with a disc he throws. But, his grandfathers fate was predestend by the Oracle.

J dog said...

I think that in this story fate plays a true role. Perseus's grandfather did a lot of things to prevent Perseus from living and trying to make the prophecy from the oricle not be true. It was ironic but there is one thing i learned from this which was when there is a prophecy that you will die than you should try and live your life the best you can for the time. I find it interesting that in this story even though Perseus's grandfather tried to make Perseus and his mother have the the worst life they could have or no life Perseus and his mother still have great, exciting, interesting and courages lives.
-Jamie

Punto said...

The tale of Perseus was an extremely interesting story, that showed a lot of fate even if it wasn't the typical fate shown in other Greek myth's. In this myth the main example of typical fate is when Perseus kills his grandfather by throwing a disk too hard, that ends up hitting him.

The rest of the story is based around faith in many ways though, because when you think about it, the reason that Perseus and his mother end up far away from where they are supposed to live, is because of what Perseus's grandfather hears through an oracle. If he had never asked the oracle about his future, he never have locked up his daughter. It was also fate that his daughter became pregnant, even though she was locked up in a tower. It was also fate that on the journey through the water, Perseus and his mother didn't die.All these small details add up to be one humongous fate.

The role of fate in this story, shows how important and true fate is in all Greek myths.

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Kelsey Barbosa said...

Fate plays a role in the whole chapter. In some of the events that took place weren't because of destiny it was completely controlled fate and the gods. All the gods had a input in this chapter in a way. When Persues found Andromeda chained it wasn't fate at that point it was destiny for him to find his wife there. All the gods kind of helped because all there skills were used when he was looking for the Gorgons and when he found Andromeda. When his mom became a slave it was total fate. It was planned and controlled from the moment king Polydectes asked Persues to dinner.

Noah said...

I believe that in the story of Perseus, fate is in the story but doesn't play a huge part. I also think that a lot of the fate in the story wasn't brought upon Perseus just because of nothing but others in the story. Many characters in the story helped make and carry out the fate. For example many of the Gods helped the fate follow through by assisting Perseus in his journey. Hermes was a God who helped the fate be a part in the story. I think Destiny played a big part in the belief system of the ancient Greeks. Their stories always seem to use fate as a part of the story. I think they did this to add to the magical feeling of their culture.

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Tyra said...

URGENT: Tom, the packet you gave me only went to chapter 6 and a page of chapter 7. So I will just infer from other's post.
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An example that seems to be used quite often in the post is when Persus by accident kills his grandfather by throwing a disc a little too hard. Fate and Destiny come hand in hand. I think that fate changes your destiny, and that is what happened with Persus. The idea of changing your destiny/fate is how you decide and control your life. Even though that throwing of the disc was not on purpose, there is always a reason for everything. Greeks rely on fate to determine there destiny when they dont realize they control it. So its kind of a confusing relashionship between a god of the power or the power having the god.
*On the other hand, if I had the rest of the reading, I might understand it more.

Unknown said...

fate played a major role in this myth. It played the role of truthfulness and trust. Fate was not taken seriously in the myth. This myth shows that ancient Greeks believed that they had a set life and a planned death. They believed that the gods knew when or how they were going to die.

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Sara Galeano said...

I agreed with Janet, that in the story of Perseus, fate played a major role in which you cant prevent your destiny from coming true. In the story of Perseus, even Zeus was unsure, if Perseus' fate was to be a hero from Argolis. The book say, "prophecies were uncertain things", this quote, in the belief system of the ancient Greeks, clearly states that although the ancient Greeks knew that the Gods and themselves found prophecies to be unpredictable. For some people (ancient Greeks) not knowing what to expect is very bothersome, provoking them to try to find out their destinies without actually living their lives.

Thamyr.D said...

Fate is played alot in the myths but, is showed and telled in the Perseus story. When the oracle tells him that one day he is going to kill his granfather, it happens but its a accident. This is destiny. I think that the ancient greeks show faith in many of their stories because they needed a reason and think that their life is all planned out by the gods.

itai said...

I think this story shows that fate always prevails. and i think in the greek religion people strongly beleive in oracles and that is why fate always prevales

daniel said...

I agree with many people that this story was manly about fate. Agreeing with Lucas i think that the idea of fate was only brought up in the beginning of the story and the end. The fact that Acrisius was killed in such a strange way shows that things do no always happen the way you think they will. Perseus went on a long journey before killing Acrisius showing that fate is everlasting. Although you may think that you are safe from your future, it is always waiting for when it feels it must fulfill itself.

Zoya said...

Fate played a big role in this story. Perseus's whole life was planned out for him before he was even old enough to have a say about it. It is a little strange that many greeks had to deal with terrible fates that were prophesied to happen. Who decided those fates? the gods? why were the gods so cruel then? And who gave them the authority to do so? Destiny played a huge role, maybe it was because the greeks needed a sort of schedule for themsleves. A prophecy made a srot of structure for them to live by.

Rodrigo9112 said...

Each person's destiny is determined and cannot be changed. In this story, the king who is Perseus's grandfather read an oracle that said his grandson would kill him. To avoid this fate, he locked his daughter in a tower and banned her marriage to anyone. In the end, Zeus married Danes and Perseus was born. Again, his father sent his daughter and Perseus on a chest abandoned on sea, hoping to drown them both. It failed too.
He sends Perseus to kill Medusa next, a mission which would take the life of any person. With the help of Athena, Zeus and other immortals, he survived.
He killed his grandfather not by intention, but accident. This myth perhaps tells why the world is unfair to some people whether they desired for it or not. There was another true story in Greece about an oracle reading that the son will kill the father, and the son had to banned from using weaponry in his life. However in a conflict with their enemies, the son accidentally killed his father.

Unknown said...

In the story of Perseus, fate plays the role of destiny. This means that usually fate means planned demise or death. But to the ancient Greeks, fate meant anything that was going to happen, and was forced to happen by the Immortals.

kabanzzz said...

In this story, it shows that from the moment you are born, you have a fate and that fate will never be changed. Even if you can see the future, and you know your fate, trying to change it will do no good. The greeks wanted to know why things ended up the way that they did, so stories were created to give an explination of why things happen.

kabanzzz said...

and that the oracle is always right

Adin Levy said...

In the Perseus story, we learn that you cannot escape fate. You have one destiny and you cannot change it. Your destiny will lead up to your fate. You cannot escape death.

PETER V. said...

this shows that as hard as you try to escape fate it will always come back to you. you canot escape the future. normally what you do to prevent the future ends up causing the unkind fate to fall apone you. though fate is only mention a few times it is a constant set of rules that set the coarce of acents for the folowing story.

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